Friday, April 16, 2010

The Playstation 2 is arguably the best s ...

Think about it, the Playstation 2 has been out forever, the year 2000 to be exact. It as a whole has over 1,800 games on the market. Even recent games that are being developed, Guitar Hero World Tour, Spiderman: Web of Shadows and Star Wars The Force Unleashed come to mind. Granted these may not be the best games, or the best looking, but the fact the Playstation 2 has been out for more than 8 years and still has games being made for it is amazing. On top of that, the Playstation 2 never had a MAJOR issue with the hardware. It's a fairly reliable system, I got mine in mid 2000 and it still runs perfectly. Even though I have had to clean the eye a few times, but I'll donate an hour or two of my time to get a piece of 8 year old hardware to work. The Playstation 2 has also had over 140 MILLION units sold. I still see people buying new Playstation 2's every once in awhile, and it makes perfect sense that they do. The Playstation 2 has the best line-up for games, at least in my honest opinion.Some of my favorite games of all time have been Playstation 2 games. Granted I'm a bit of an RPG nut, and the Playstation 2 feed to this addiction, I still believe that it has some of the best games out on the market, even still today. I constantly revisit my Playstation 2 to play titles from Final Fantasy X, X-2, and XII, Champions of Norrath, Sukioden, all the way to games like Devil May Cry 3, Siphon Filter, and Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 %26 3. This system offers the best of all worlds, and a friendly controller scheme.

In comparisson to today's consoles, I still believe the PS2 to be superior, at least for now. It has existed for a much longer time, has an extensive library of THOUSANDS of games, still runs some of today's titles, and so much more. The quality of the games can also rival games coming out as of recently.
I don't know if anyone else has seemed to notice this, but a fair portion of games being released lately, both console and PC, have been more focused on the aesthetic looks rather then the quality of the game and story. Bare in mind I have played most new releases of games, and quite enjoy a fair few of them. I've been addicted to Fallout 3 and FIFA 09 in the past week or so, so I'm also a modern day entrepreneur of games, but it seems like worse quality games have been produced for the newer systems. Some games are almost completley focused on graphics; the one thing I look for in a game is a compelling story, a structured gameplay, and some sort of soundtrack that can capture the elements of the game. (This doesn't apply to sports games, I look for different things in those)But the synopsis is such that the Playstation 2 is in fact an amazing system, with a list of games that is nearly endless, and still manages to somehow suck away the free time I pretend to make myself have. This is just my opinion, I'm wondering if anyone else may share the same views as I do.If you read the entire thing, thank you for taking the time to understand someone else's point of view, or maybe find someone else that shares the same overall perspective on gaming. The Playstation 2 is arguably the best s ...
The legacy platforms board is really where you should take this.

Konami Reps are the reason that MGS4 360 ...

Fanboy aside, the rumor keeps getting jumped started by internal sources/!!!EDIT!!! Reps of Konami... Now before we start with the crazy side of SW I'm just saying the !!!EDIT!!! Reps deserve some of the blame for this rumor.http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/919/919647p1.htmlKonami Reps are the reason that MGS4 360 ...
Wow people still talk about metal gear solid? Those games have been lame since splinter cell came out and blew it away.Konami Reps are the reason that MGS4 360 ...
A Konami rep is not a dev. and also that article does not clarify anything but the fact that Konami in general is looking into multiplatform releases. This is not specifically about MGS4. and as Kojima the DEV has stated time and time again, this game is NOT coming out on the 360.live with it or buy a ps3.EDIT: ''Heith'' the TC said FANBOYS ASIDE!
[QUOTE=''Heith'']Wow people still talk about metal gear solid? Those games have been lame since splinter cell came out and blew it away.[/QUOTE].........no
[QUOTE=''Heith'']Wow people still talk about metal gear solid? Those games have been lame since splinter cell came out and blew it away.[/QUOTE]LMAO... Damage Control still??? I thought lemmings would be over it by now... By Gamespot Standards (for all claims of ownage on this site) Metal Gear Solid 4 is a 10... Splinter Cell Double Agent (I believe its the most recent) 8.5 for Xbox 360... PS3 (Cows) win this one...
[QUOTE=''HULKMANIA_001'']A Konami rep is not a dev. and also that article does not clarify anything but the fact that Konami in general is looking into multiplatform releases. This is not specifically about MGS4. and as Kojima the DEV has stated time and time again, this game is NOT coming out on the 360.live with it or buy a ps3.EDIT: ''Heith'' the TC said FANBOYS ASIDE! [/QUOTE] These rumours are annoying, but the article is extremely clear in indicating that they are talking about the possibility of making MGS4 multiplatform, not konami games in general..
Kojima has said it's not coming to 360 a few times already.
[QUOTE=''HULKMANIA_001''] A Konami rep is not a dev. and also that article does not clarify anything but the fact that Konami in general is looking into multiplatform releases. This is not specifically about MGS4. and as Kojima the DEV has stated time and time again, this game is NOT coming out on the 360.live with it or buy a ps3. EDIT: ''Heith'' the TC said FANBOYS ASIDE! [/QUOTE] Dev/Rep, still under Konami's unbrallia... but my point still stands...
why do people still talk about this ive been hearig it for a long time now and its annoying i mean just go buy a used ps3 or something if you want it that badly, thats why i bought mine for just 180 dollars lol
[QUOTE=''-Sniper99-'']Kojima has said it's not coming to 360 a few times already.[/QUOTE] Not aruging rather or not MGS4 comes to 360...just the fact that this later rumor was infact started by a Konami rep...
[QUOTE=''h2owizard'']why do people still talk about this ive been hearig it for a long time now and its annoying i mean just go buy a used ps3 or something if you want it that badly, thats why i bought mine for just 180 dollars lol[/QUOTE] Didn't read the OP?
[QUOTE=''h2owizard'']why do people still talk about this ive been hearig it for a long time now and its annoying i mean just go buy a used ps3 or something if you want it that badly, thats why i bought mine for just 180 dollars lol[/QUOTE] I believe the TC has a PS3 (based on their sig)...so I don't think that is the point they are trying to get across.
[QUOTE=''CrazyGamr_basic''] [QUOTE=''h2owizard'']why do people still talk about this ive been hearig it for a long time now and its annoying i mean just go buy a used ps3 or something if you want it that badly, thats why i bought mine for just 180 dollars lol[/QUOTE] I believe the TC has a PS3 (based on their sig)...so I don't think that is the point they are trying to get across. [/QUOTE] Yep, and no games :(gonna get R2 and rebuy MGS4 next week
[QUOTE=''-Sniper99-'']Kojima has said it's not coming to 360 a few times already.[/QUOTE] Kojima isn't the one who calls this though. Konami as a company says whether or not it goes multiplatform.
Well, most of the people who wanted to play mgs4 already played it, the rest either don't have a ps3, or can't afford it. Some of those who don't have a ps3 have a 360, like a friend of mine, so let them have it I say. And before the cows start flaming, I already have it and I've already beaten it. So why let such a great game be only for ps3 owners?
[QUOTE=''CrazyGamr_basic''][QUOTE=''h2owizard'']why do people still talk about this ive been hearig it for a long time now and its annoying i mean just go buy a used ps3 or something if you want it that badly, thats why i bought mine for just 180 dollars lol[/QUOTE] I believe the TC has a PS3 (based on their sig)...so I don't think that is the point they are trying to get across. [/QUOTE] yeah youre right but i still see lots of these threads
Why do 360 owners want it so bad. I mean if they do just go out and buy a ps3 when its library stacks up.
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i wounder what that means, i've read tht before.
People need to research before theyes post.



A Konami dev never said that, it was a misunderstanding/bad translation. Besides even if it were true, i'll take Kojima's word over his any day.



MGS4 boosted Konami's profits by 88%, obviously it sold well so there is no need for a port.



Kojima squashed this whole MGS4 on 360 thing, when he basically said if you wanna play MGS4 go buy a PS3.



He told Famitsu, he's working on a new game and it'll be revealed in 2009.



A new game isn't MGS4.



The only arguments 360 owners has, is the rumors/others did to up against the arguments I just supplied above.



I think ZOE3 has a higher chance on being on 360.

Here on system wars I feel that we dont ...

I mean we have a ton of games that are great and are AA. It just seems that AA is known for being a flop score for a AAA hyped game. I think we should view AA titles in a little better light in the future. Do you agree?Here on system wars I feel that we dont ...
Yeah its kinda funny, AAA is the only score that matter, anything lower or higher doesn't seem to get the respect it deserves.Here on system wars I feel that we dont ...
I agree, however many people here are blinded by ''GAMES MUST BE AAA-AAAA OR THEY SUCK!'' There are tons of good AA games.
Resistance 2, eh?Haha, jk, I agree with you though. There are plenty of AA games that are some of my favourite games ever. I enjoy many AA games more than AAA games. I just have a mindset for when I go into System Wars to not defend AA games because its pointless, people will just call damage control. I'll enjoy AA games on my own time and discuss them in their respective forums, but they aren't good subject material for System Wars (unless they were hyped AA and are exclusive or have good graphics).
I do.that's what makes the biggest difference between Wii and the 2 real next gen systems if you look at metacritic. it's way behind.
Yea, it's a bad habit on system wars but it's only on system wars so no big deal.
I value them. For some odd reason I've tend to enjoy a larger quantity of AA games than I do AAA.
I enjoyed some A games most of all this gen actually, including chromehounds and shadowrun. Then again, SW uses games to prove they're better or something, not to have... fun.
Seriously not every game needs to be AAA to equal a buy. Iv seen some people say ''I only play AAA games and thats it'' which is a freaking sad statement. In my eyes your no gamer.
lol - some of our swarthy SW friends don't even value AAA or AAAA titles...
[QUOTE=''Heydanbud92'']I do.that's what makes the biggest difference between Wii and the 2 real next gen systems if you look at metacritic. it's way behind.[/QUOTE]
I agree what this. As a Wii owner (no I'm not sad about that and I'm very happy with my Wii) it kind of hurt that the Wii has such a small library. It has two AAA games this year and some AA games but nothing else.

Which of the next-gen systems do you own ...

Which of the next-gen systems do you own? (not including hand-helds)If you have two different systems but not all three please post which ones they are.Which of the next-gen systems do you own ...
I have a Wii and a PS3.Which of the next-gen systems do you own ...
360 and PS3, I had a Wii but sold it.
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  • PS2 doesn't need to envy this Gen consol ...

    PS2 doesn't need to envy this Gen consoles. 8)PS2 is STILL alive and kicking with these NEW RPGs (coming soon), check them out: Persona 4Eternal Poison Ar Tonelico II: Melody of MetafalicaPS2 doesn't need to envy this Gen consol ...
    Anime RPGs! I can't wait to sink my teeth into that deep story about that girl who has amnesia, or that guy who doesn't have enough courage!PS2 doesn't need to envy this Gen consol ...
    I have to say, I'm impressed the PS2 is still getting new games. It is still alive and kicking it.
    But what if I want to play something besides an anime RPG? Sorry, but the PS2 is old news.
    as much as I love the ps2, it needs to die, those games should be on ps3/360
    I remember seeing this Japanese sales charts and the ps2 was out selling the 360
    [QUOTE=''Masterx1220'']I remember seeing this Japanese sales charts and the ps2 was out selling the 360 [/QUOTE]its also been outselling the ps3 most of the time
    [QUOTE=''-Mad_Rhetoric-''][QUOTE=''Masterx1220'']I remember seeing this Japanese sales charts and the ps2 was out selling the 360 [/QUOTE]its also been outselling the ps3 most of the time[/QUOTE] Technically ps3's with bc can play ps2 games. But I see where you're getting at mainly cuz not all ps3's have bc. To stay on topic. Ps2 doesnt need to envy this gen's consoles. There really wasn't any major development in many genres of gaming except for shooting and racing(graphic wise). I think ps2 owners will be content until this gen of gaming is over.
    are all those games exclusive
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    [QUOTE=''EmperorZeruel'']are all those games exclusive[/QUOTE]
    PS2 DOESN'T need exclusivity to survive. 8)
    It was THE KING of Last Gen. And it's STILL refusing to die.

    [QUOTE=''dr_jashugan''][QUOTE=''EmperorZeruel'']are all those games exclusive[/QUOTE]
    PS2 DOESN'T need exclusivity to survive. 8)
    It was THE KING of Last Gen. And it's STILL refusing to die.
    [/QUOTE]True, so true :P anyway the ps2 has enough games, sony should concentrate on the psp and ps3:P
    [QUOTE=''dr_jashugan''][QUOTE=''EmperorZeruel'']are all those games exclusive[/QUOTE]
    PS2 DOESN'T need exclusivity to survive. 8)
    It was THE KING of Last Gen. And it's STILL refusing to die.
    [/QUOTE]well i was just wondering maybe it will come out for wii since wii often gets ps2 ports.
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    the ps2 is king leonidas.
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    [QUOTE=''-Mad_Rhetoric-''][QUOTE=''Popadophalis''][QUOTE=''CreepyBacon''][QUOTE=''FactoryRust'']Anime RPGs! I can't wait to sink my teeth into that deep story about that girl who has amnesia, or that guy who doesn't have enough courage![/QUOTE]:lol: [/QUOTE] :lol: [/QUOTE]:lol:[/QUOTE]

    No but seriously:

    :lol:
    [QUOTE=''angry_fork''][QUOTE=''-Mad_Rhetoric-''][QUOTE=''Popadophalis''][QUOTE=''CreepyBacon''] [QUOTE=''FactoryRust'']Anime RPGs! I can't wait to sink my teeth into that deep story about that girl who has amnesia, or that guy who doesn't have enough courage![/QUOTE]:lol: [/QUOTE] :lol: [/QUOTE]:lol:[/QUOTE]

    No but seriously:

    :lol:[/QUOTE]LMAO:lol: combo breaker! So funny!
    PS2 is STILL alive and kicking !!!!

    Ok, you stick with your PS2 there. [QUOTE=''FactoryRust'']Anime RPGs! I can't wait to sink my teeth into that deep story about that girl who has amnesia, or that guy who doesn't have enough courage![/QUOTE] Lol.

    Banjo Kazooie: Nuts& Bolts Review!

    9\10 nice...http://www.nzgamer.com/x360/reviews/787/banjo-kazooie-nuts-bolts.htmlthe graphics got 10 but the Sound got 8 becuse the lack of voice actingthe graphics is realy one of the best (like every rare game)Banjo Kazooie: Nuts%26amp; Bolts Review!
    I've never heard of this site. I guess it's good news for those looking forward to this game (I played the demo and it isn't my thing, so I really don't care either way,) but I quickly looked at their main review page and they also gave Saints Row 2 a 9... so I'd take this review with a grain of salt.Banjo Kazooie: Nuts%26amp; Bolts Review!
    The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun?
    [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] LBP is a much better game. This is AA material.
    I hope this game flops sale wise. Hated it. Banjo should be a traditional platformer not a half assed racing game.
    [QUOTE=''Kratos_OMEGA'']I hope this game flops sale wise. Hated it. Banjo should be a traditional platformer not a half assed racing game.[/QUOTE]Ya know...the very concept of making funky vehicles...not all that exciting in the game. And that's being nice. Its a real drag.
    Nice find. Don't know the site but it certainly sounds like they have good tastes in games. :)
    [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE]everything you complain about was the opposite for me. the racing was fun, soccer was cute, and the fonts really didn't bother me at all, I just think the messages are kind of quick sometimes, so if you are not paying attention you can miss what they said.Banjo is fine, I have never played the previous versions but I'm going with the here and now and this new one seems like fun. really enjoyed making a vehicle that was better suited to save that damn alligator with the big eyes.I'll be picking this game up.I think some of you spend way too much time comparing games to other games instead of enjoying a game for what it is, instead of wishing of what it should have been.
    [QUOTE=''LEGEND_C4A''] [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE]everything you complain about was the opposite for me. the racing was fun, soccer was cute, and the fonts really didn't bother me at all, I just think the messages are kind of quick sometimes, so if you are not paying attention you can miss what they said.Banjo is fine, I have never played the previous versions but I'm going with the here and now and this new one seems like fun. really enjoyed making a vehicle that was better suited to save that damn alligator with the big eyes.I'll be picking this game up.I think some of you spend way too much time comparing games to other games instead of enjoying a game for what it is, instead of wishing of what it should have been.[/QUOTE]Every game should be reviewed on its own terms but its hard to over look certain things when other games have raised the bar on their own genres.
    This was already a long thread last night here.I came in expecting it to be IGN or GameSpots review.
    Awsome! I preordered it. I just got the preorder bonus, but I can't use it till I get the game.This looks awsome though, can't wait!Could Banjo be the surprise hit of the year? Hope so.
    [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] THe demo is based on the one Rare had at e3. The full game has bigger text, fortunatly.
    Great score for an AAE hyped game.
    [QUOTE=''SecretPolice'']Nice find. Don't know the site but it certainly sounds like they have good tastes in games. :)[/QUOTE] LOL...of course.
    [QUOTE=''Javy03''] [QUOTE=''SecretPolice'']Nice find. Don't know the site but it certainly sounds like they have good tastes in games. :)[/QUOTE] LOL...of course.[/QUOTE]I knew you'd get a kick outta that. :)
    [QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] LBP is a much better game. This is AA material. [/QUOTE] Says you.I enjoyed Banjo more.LBP is too old school imo
    [QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''] [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] LBP is a much better game. This is AA material. [/QUOTE] Says you.I enjoyed Banjo more.LBP is too old school imo [/QUOTE]It's a side scrooler, not to mention the recall and the broken on-line. How with that it retains it's AAA status is quite a foul in my book.
    [QUOTE=''SecretPolice''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''] [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] LBP is a much better game. This is AA material. [/QUOTE] Says you.I enjoyed Banjo more.LBP is too old school imo [/QUOTE]It's a side scrooler, not to mention the recall and the broken on-line. How with that it retains it's AAA status is quite a foul in my book.[/QUOTE]The online is fixed and runs smoothly. The recall has nothing to do with the actual game and its score. LBP manages to do more with less. Banjo on the other hand wants to think the vehicle system is an exciting proposition but to many of us it's not. Gameplay is downright boring at times. I could barely manage to finish the demo. I think Banjo will satisfy the die hards but thats it.
    [QUOTE=''SecretPolice''][QUOTE=''ukillwegrill''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''] [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] LBP is a much better game. This is AA material. [/QUOTE] Says you.I enjoyed Banjo more.LBP is too old school imo [/QUOTE]It's a side scrooler, not to mention the recall and the broken on-line. How with that it retains it's AAA status is quite a foul in my book.[/QUOTE] I dunno myself.The community features?The creation tools?None of that is unique either. The Hype got to the critics.
    [QUOTE=''vashkey''] [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']The lack of voice talent was dissapointing and the tiny font hurt my eyes. Its an okay game from what I played so far. Unfortunately when compared to mario galaxy where getting stars was grin inducing getting puzzle pieces left me more with ''meh'' kind of feeling. Do a race? Make believe soccer? Ummm...okay, not all that fun really. Meanwhile LBP has me smiling every other minute (and then frowning cause its so damn hard). Banjo has the style but where's the fun? [/QUOTE] THe demo is based on the one Rare had at e3. The full game has bigger text, fortunatly.[/QUOTE]Thank goodness.

    Which Game Has The Better Instruments? R ...

    Which game do you think came with the best instruments?The Rock Band 2 Bundle or the Guitar Hero: World Tour Bundle?
    Which Game Has The Better Instruments? R ...
    Rock Band 2 outdid Guitar Hero: World Tour on every front--instruments included.Which Game Has The Better Instruments? R ...
    I prefer the rock band instruments across the board. My wife, who is the drummer, greatly prefers the rock band drums but she does like the guitar hero guitar a bit more. Of course she never, ever plays guitar so take that for what it's worth :)
    [QUOTE=''PapaJohn24'']Rock Band 2 outdid Guitar Hero: World Tour on every front--instruments included.[/QUOTE]



    Have you used the GH:WT Drums??? They are excelllent and I think better than RB2 because of the cymbols
    [QUOTE=''POJO_MOFO''][QUOTE=''PapaJohn24'']Rock Band 2 outdid Guitar Hero: World Tour on every front--instruments included.[/QUOTE] Have you used the GH:WT Drums??? They are excelllent and I think better than RB2 because of the cymbols[/QUOTE]RB2 have symbols that will be released at a later date.
    Having played A LOT with both of them, I have to say the GH: WT drums are better, but the drumming game is better in RB2. But if you're planning on getting a drumset, buy the WT set after it is fixed.The WT guitar is the best Guitar, followed by the Fender Precission Bass, Les Paul, then Fender Stratocaster.