The one thing I noticed, is why isn't the RRoD issue not solved yet? Wasn't it supposed to be fixed from the elite console? But before that, didn't they fix the heat issue on the processor, wasn't that supposed to fix the issue? But before that it was the Clamps that was the issue. However, right before I left I heard about the all powerful Falcon chip, well why hasn't that fixed it?So all in all, What causes the RROD? Why hasn't it been addressed? And WHY oh WHY are the people who get the RROD still buying 360's!? I knew a few people who all got the RROD and not One of them went back to buy the system, in fact one bought a PS3 is happy with it and will not buy another 360 until he knows the issue is resolved.So please tell me, why do you buy a 360? I really want to know. But please don't give me that ''Because the 360 has better games excuse''. What I want to hear is your logic on why you buy a system that is now almost as qualified to break in not an if, but when. Is it because you really like Microsoft? Is it because you just love the console to much to not part with it? Or just what may be the reason?Been gone for a while and I just noticed ...
i havent heard about any new 360s RRODingBeen gone for a while and I just noticed ...
[QUOTE=''mingo123'']i havent heard about any new 360s RRODing[/QUOTE]Really, cause I have only been on here for a week and think it's a bigger issue now than when I left.
thats what releasing it a year earlier did for them. rushed hardware = rrod
[QUOTE=''e20sm0ke'']thats what releasing it a year earlier did for them. rushed hardware = rrod[/QUOTE]Well, it's been out for 3 years now, it should of been resolved right?
thats microsoft for you.
Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.
[QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :
|[QUOTE=''mingo123''][QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.
[QUOTE=''Delsage''][QUOTE=''mingo123''] [QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.[/QUOTE] I think that MS have sort of skrewed this gen up in terms of sales. We dont know who will win this gen but we can be pretty sure that MS WILL get a sales boost as peoples warranties run out, Ad with the 360's new price people will just buy new 360's which WILL count towards the fiunal sales...
[QUOTE=''Delsage''][QUOTE=''mingo123''] [QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.[/QUOTE]coz 360 is simply the best console
I have over 50 games for my 360. I also have various addons and such for the console. When the 360 gets RROD you just send it away to get it repaired for free within a 3 year timespan from point of sale. Are you saying your friend was actually considering going out and buying another 360 while he could have gotten another one for free? What did he do with all those games he purchased? And iof he sold them, how much money do you think he lost in the long run?RROD is still a problem for those consoles that were bought early or that are refurbished. If a person bought a 360 at launch and only got RROD recently people will count it as recent. However that 360 was purchased at launch and has absolutely none of the improvements in the 360 to minimize the RROD issue. The reason consoles RROD is because of a heat issue. I'm sure everyone knows that. MS packed quite a lot of hot hardware into a small package and didn't provide adequate cooling probably to cut down on costs. In the long run it cost them more and I'm fairly certain that next gen they will think twice before doing something that stupid. 45nm technology produces a lot less heat than 65nm technology does and due to that the most recent 360's being produced have less of a chance of getting RROD and with the added heatsinks and such it takes even more heat away from the CPU and GPU. There will of course always be a chance of getting RROD MS is merely trying to minimize it.
[QUOTE=''Delsage''][QUOTE=''mingo123''] [QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a PS2 last gen as well. Go figure, over a 100 million sold.
[QUOTE=''SecretPolice''][QUOTE=''Delsage''][QUOTE=''mingo123''] [QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a PS2 last gen as well. Go figure, over a 100 million sold.[/QUOTE]I did have a PS2, yeah. However it not once broke on me, and I never heard of these ''failure issues'' until the fans of the 360 keep bringing them up to justify their means. Hey if my PS2 ever died on me, you can bet I wouldn't of bought another one. Also if I heard of the PS2 having as much failures as I hear the 360 has, I wouldn't of bought it as well.
It's always going to be an issue as long as the ones that are still out there haven't been fixed. Even more, what will happen when a person who's had their 360 longer than 3 years gets RRoD after the warranty expires?
They have made several attempts at fixing it, but remember there are still millions of consoles on the market from 2005-early 2007. those still break.
[QUOTE=''bez2083'']It's always going to be an issue as long as the ones that are still out there haven't been fixed. Even more, what will happen when a person who's had their 360 longer than 3 years gets RRoD after the warranty expires?[/QUOTE]I was wondering about that myself, basically, when Microsoft stops supporting the 360 all the games on it will be null and void. So basically you will be stuck with a dead 360 and all the games that go with it and no way to play them.For crying out loud my Atari, NES, SNES, PS1, Genisis, N64 and DC all still work so I am able to play any game I want on them. However I wont be able to do that with the 360, or any of it's games.So lets face it, if you are buying 360 games right now, all you are doing is wasting money on something you wont be able to go back and play in 3 years. So again I want to know, what's the point of doing that if I can get the games all on the PC which will last for a long, long time.
[QUOTE=''Delsage''][QUOTE=''mingo123''] [QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.[/QUOTE] i had 2 PS2's die on me last gen, which means i bought 3 PS2's.... get the answer yet? it's all about the games
[QUOTE=''Delsage''][QUOTE=''mingo123''][QUOTE=''DaBrainz'']Its hard to tell if the 360s on the store shelfs are fixed because almost nobody is buying them anymore. Maybe next year when they are $99 I'll get one for my five year old.[/QUOTE]360 is selling pretty good :|[/QUOTE]Yeah but Why are people buying a console that will break? Not just once, but again and again.[/QUOTE]I think it might be because the 360 is easy to pirate games.....and now they have some stealth thing to where you can play online..... it is probably a better investment for these ''gamers'' to spend 299 or what ever if they can get their games for free.... I used to wonder the same thing though....and this is one main reason as well as others that I haven't purchased a 360 yet.......I can't be stressed to always be worried that my system might die as soon as I turn it on one day :|
I've noticed the exact opposite. Threads about rrod are wayyyyy down from pre-Falcon. Threads about new consoles failing are infrequent, no more frequent than threads about PS3's and Wii's dying.As for older pre-Falcon 360's, it wasn't until a few months ago that people started receiving Opus consoles for their non-HDMI warranty repairs. Personally I think MS messed up by having Opus come out so much later than Falcon, since sending customers back unreliable Xenon systems kept the issue of reoccuring rrod alive. I expect rrod to fade from prominence with Opus systems being sent to pre-HDMI console owners, and with the much more reliable Falcons and upcoming Jasper systems sold to new owners. It'll never completely go away though. It's a general hardware failure code, there will aways be a percentage of defective systems out there.
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