Zero AAAE but win in Worldwide sales and then get to claim ownage just like cows did at the end of 2007? Why is there a double standard here? ThanksHow come 360 cant go the same route as t ...
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-Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at.
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[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....
[QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening.
Because its had 4 fantastic AAs not forgetting Lost OdysseyThe PS3 didnt even have that in 07
[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE]Games how so? Two titles arent enough, and then the year isnt over yet either...
[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE] struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure.....
[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE]Games how so? Two titles arent enough, and then the year isnt over yet either... [/QUOTE] Yeah, there's still Resistance 2 and Valkyria Chronicles. Let's just be realistic- the PS3 will have more AAAE games than the 360 for 2008, barring a miracle. It's agreed that the 360 won 2007 because it had the most AAAE's. And the same thing is happening this year for the PS3. I don't care about GS's scores but that's just the way it's done here.
[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE]Games how so? Two titles arent enough, and then the year isnt over yet either... [/QUOTE] Yeah, there's still Resistance 2 and Valkyria Chronicles. Let's just be realistic- the PS3 will have more AAAE games than the 360 for 2008, barring a miracle. It's agreed that the 360 won 2007 because it had the most AAAE's. And the same thing is happening this year for the PS3. I don't care about GS's scores but that's just the way it's done here. [/QUOTE]Lets just be realistic NOTHING IS CERTAINEven if Gears and LBP end up getting AA, the 360 will still have an absolutely fantastic year
[QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE] struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure..... [/QUOTE] He is talking about WW not regional.Besides i thought Japan didnt matter , at least it didnt when the 360 was behind.Wii, and handhelds still dominate, and the Ps2 still manages to compete with both the Ps3 and the 360, at this point both consoles are doing subpar in sales at least .
[QUOTE=''Lionslove360'']struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure..... [/QUOTE]Being outsold by over a million this year in Europe is not really ''neck and neck''.
[QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE] struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure..... [/QUOTE]Yeah, I saw them. The 360 outsold the PS3 by roughly 130,000 units. Considering the console is half the price, you can colour me unimpressed. Japan should FINALLY swing back in Sony's favour next week with the bundles, LBP and GTA 4. If not, the PS3 is finished in Japan. And the PS3 has already gone back to beating the 360 in Europe and that's before the new 160GB model comes out. But that isn't really the point. Even if the 360 does sell a little better than the PS3 for the rest of the year, the PS3 is still roughly 1.5 million ahead for 2008 in total.
[QUOTE=''nicenator''] [QUOTE=''Lionslove360'']struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure..... [/QUOTE]Being outsold by over a million this year in Europe is not really ''neck and neck''.[/QUOTE] well im talking about recently since the price drops. I think the 360 is going to do alot of damage in the US during the holidays and be on par with the PS3 in Europe.
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[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery'']Even if Gears and LBP end up getting AA, the 360 will still have an absolutely fantastic year [/QUOTE]LBP? Don't you mean Banjo? I'm not saying the 360 is having a bad year, but it looks very likely to have the weakest AAAE library out of the 3 for 2008.
[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''][QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim''] -Gears 2 will be AAAE.-The 360 will once again be third in WW sales for the year.-I really have no idea what you're getting at. [/QUOTE] you wanna make a bet that it wont be 3rd in WW sales? 360 will beat out the PS3 in 2008 in WW. Also I do agree about Gears getting AAAE, but as we know in 2007 the PS3 didnt have one AAAE and it was ok since they won in WW sales. Thats what im getting at.....[/QUOTE] It wasn't really ''OK''. The general consensus is that the 360 won 2007 in terms of games but the PS3 won in terms of sales (Ignoring the WII here for the sake of argument).The PS3 has already outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million WW for the year. And the 360 is struggling to outsell it with a $199 price tag, PS3 has it beaten this year for games and sales. Unless Gears 2, Banjo and Last Remnant all get AAAAE and the 360 sales suddenly increase by 10,000%. But I don't see that happening. [/QUOTE] struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure..... [/QUOTE]Yeah, I saw them. The 360 outsold the PS3 by roughly 130,000 units. Considering the console is half the price, you can colour me unimpressed. Japan should FINALLY swing back in Sony's favour next week with the bundles, LBP and GTA 4. If not, the PS3 is finished in Japan. And the PS3 has already gone back to beating the 360 in Europe and that's before the new 160GB model comes out. But that isn't really the point. Even if the 360 does sell a little better than the PS3 for the rest of the year, the PS3 is still roughly 1.5 million ahead for 2008 in total. [/QUOTE] ok lets for get about the Last remenent for the 360 in Japan, and 130,000 for a month like sept is very impressive, you have any idea of how many consoles are sold during the holidays. You can color me unimpressed when the 360 wins in WW sales at the end of 2008 as well.
[QUOTE=''Lionslove360''][QUOTE=''nicenator''] [QUOTE=''Lionslove360'']struggling? Did you see last months NPD numbers? Also have you seen the 360 in Japan? Neck and Neck in Europe and I do think it can catch up for sure..... [/QUOTE]Being outsold by over a million this year in Europe is not really ''neck and neck''.[/QUOTE] well im talking about recently since the price drops. I think the 360 is going to do alot of damage in the US during the holidays and be on par with the PS3 in Europe.[/QUOTE]The price drop has helped definately, but i cant see it making up that sort of ground in 2 months.
[QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery'']Lets just be realistic NOTHING IS CERTAIN Even if Gears and LBP end up getting AA, the 360 will still have an absolutely fantastic year [/QUOTE] Of course nothing is certain, thats not what he was saying. He is saying that in 07 MS fanboys concluded that the 360 had a better year because it had games like Bioshock, ME, and Halo along with great multiplats. Now of course I owned a PS3 and I enjoyed HS, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Warhawk that year along with COD4 and other popular multiplats so the PS3 ALSO had a fantastic year, just according to GS SW rules not as good as the 360s.Now in 08 the PS3 has MGS4 AAAAE, LBP AAAE, plenty of AAE games as well and some more solid games on the horizon like Resistance 2 and Valkyria Chronicles. Thats not even mentioning the fantastic multiplats. So of course by GS SW rules you can see that the PS3 has had a better year in terms of games.
Friday, April 16, 2010
Most popular COD4 or Halo3?
I can't decide which one I like most COD4 or Halo3? And which will be better COD4 or COD5?Most popular COD4 or Halo3?
I prefer Halo 3. Both are good though.Most popular COD4 or Halo3?
I prefer COD4, and will probably NOT pick up COD5 because COD4 is plenty for me. Plus there are so many other game coming out this year, COD5 is completely off my radar
I like Halo 3 more. Both AAA to me.
COD4 sold more and is more popular because it's multiplat, But as a game it overshadowed halo 3 last year, stole all of it's FPS awards and even won many GOTY awards. I like COD4 better. COD:Waw....meh i might rent it. I'm only interested for the MP. SP looks kack.
They're both decent, but i think Halo has much more depth and variety to it than COD, multiplayer wise.
I prefer Halo 3. Both are good though.Most popular COD4 or Halo3?
I prefer COD4, and will probably NOT pick up COD5 because COD4 is plenty for me. Plus there are so many other game coming out this year, COD5 is completely off my radar
I like Halo 3 more. Both AAA to me.
COD4 sold more and is more popular because it's multiplat, But as a game it overshadowed halo 3 last year, stole all of it's FPS awards and even won many GOTY awards. I like COD4 better. COD:Waw....meh i might rent it. I'm only interested for the MP. SP looks kack.
They're both decent, but i think Halo has much more depth and variety to it than COD, multiplayer wise.
Are you surprised that LBP isnt selling ...
Fable 2 is killing LBP in sales. Why do you think Fable 2 is selling at basically a 4-1 compared to LBP? Also I know its not official, but you know this is where the numbers are going. Why do you think LBP which is a great game isnt selling that well?Are you surprised that LBP isnt selling ...
LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.Are you surprised that LBP isnt selling ...
[QUOTE=''Broman6015'']LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.[/QUOTE] thats a good point. Didnt think of that.
lol at you thinking LBP would sell more than Fable 2 or even being comparable. the first Fable sold close to 3 million. Did you really think a new ip like LBP stood a chance against it. Then you have take in consideration of the messed up launch. Game is going to bomb hard. Once Resistance 2 and Gears 2 come out nobody is even going to think of LBP anymore.
Fable is proven so there is no surprise there, but LBP, i know the reason why i didn't get it is because 1. no one could tell me what the point of the game was until the reviews came out, and when i asked people, they would just say it is fun (this is pre-release). 2. it just seems not too complicated (as in, i feel as though gameplay would be easy all the time)
[QUOTE=''Broman6015'']LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.[/QUOTE] This and maybe because of the fact its not being advertised properly, I'm in the UK and I've seen no form of advertisement at all for LBP.
I am not shocked at all. They will look at it and while sackboy is cute he is also kiddy looking. There will be the type of people that hang on websites like this that will know what the game is like but in the scope of things that is a small number compared to the amount of people that buy games.
[QUOTE=''Broman6015'']LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.[/QUOTE]fable 2 was released on the 24th, but, i myself am suprised lbp is not selling as well as fable 2, i'm playing fable 2 and its good but nothing spectacular
Because your average joe does not care about creating levels. Why people thought this would appeal to casuals, all cause it's got some stupid potato sack man on it i don't know. There casual, not completely stupid. Where as flip the coin you have Fable 2, EXTREMELY easy to get to grips on, VERY simple, hell even the magic doesn't have Mana, you can just spam it. It's designed for the casual RPG player and it sucks in the ''hardcore'' as well, it was always going to happen it's just to many people in here fool themselves into thinking SW = Real life.
The game just doesn't appeal to that many people. For all the talk about it being the new casual game, I know I don't waat to play any 2d side scroller that doesn't have a plumber in it any more, and only that is for nostalgic reasons. There are much more fun gametypes and experiences to have instead of playing through a 2d God of War level as Sackboy Kratos.EDIT: especially when your Sackboy CANNOT attack at all. What a lame design desicion.
Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the ''creating'' part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.
Planescape Torment Grim Fandango etc. = Games that are awesome and considered one of best games ever made - yet they dont sell well
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[QUOTE=''TBoogy'']Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the ''creating'' part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.[/QUOTE] 6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
It truly saddens me. We need LBP to do well. It's nice to get new %26 fresh IP's so well created, so if this bombs, it'll hurt the industry a little bit, imho. Although, I'm glad Fable 2's doing well. I just wish LBP could pick up in sales.
[QUOTE=''Lidve'']Planescape Torment Grim Fandango etc. = Games that are awesome and considered one of best games ever made - yet they dont sell well[/QUOTE] I just installed Grim Fandango yesterday :D
[QUOTE=''Fawlcon_Pawnch''] [QUOTE=''TBoogy'']Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the ''creating'' part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.[/QUOTE] 6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi. [/QUOTE] SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copies
This is how a cutesey niche game that's a new IP on a self-styled ''hardcore'' console should sell. Both Viva Pinatas were excellent, but they weren't record breakers... LBP never had a chance to sell in the same ballpark as a game like Fable - good game or no, it's just a poor fit for a blockbuster.
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No one on these boards seemed to come to terms that people outside of gaming forums had no interest or little knowledge about LBP, no one listened. Sony's commercials didnt tell what the game was about, so people outside of the niche market ignored it. Pretty obvious it was going to end up this way.
[QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']It truly saddens me. We need LBP to do well. It's nice to get new %26 fresh IP's so well created, so if this bombs, it'll hurt the industry a little bit, imho. Although, I'm glad Fable 2's doing well. I just wish LBP could pick up in sales.[/QUOTE] SHould blames all those casual owners that have a wii and also blame Sony for losing that casual market. Also messing up the launch was a big thing too.
LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.Are you surprised that LBP isnt selling ...
[QUOTE=''Broman6015'']LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.[/QUOTE] thats a good point. Didnt think of that.
lol at you thinking LBP would sell more than Fable 2 or even being comparable. the first Fable sold close to 3 million. Did you really think a new ip like LBP stood a chance against it. Then you have take in consideration of the messed up launch. Game is going to bomb hard. Once Resistance 2 and Gears 2 come out nobody is even going to think of LBP anymore.
Fable is proven so there is no surprise there, but LBP, i know the reason why i didn't get it is because 1. no one could tell me what the point of the game was until the reviews came out, and when i asked people, they would just say it is fun (this is pre-release). 2. it just seems not too complicated (as in, i feel as though gameplay would be easy all the time)
[QUOTE=''Broman6015'']LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.[/QUOTE] This and maybe because of the fact its not being advertised properly, I'm in the UK and I've seen no form of advertisement at all for LBP.
I am not shocked at all. They will look at it and while sackboy is cute he is also kiddy looking. There will be the type of people that hang on websites like this that will know what the game is like but in the scope of things that is a small number compared to the amount of people that buy games.
[QUOTE=''Broman6015'']LBP's launch was messed up. Most people couldn't find the game until the 28th, where as Fable 2 came out when it was supposed to on the 21st.[/QUOTE]fable 2 was released on the 24th, but, i myself am suprised lbp is not selling as well as fable 2, i'm playing fable 2 and its good but nothing spectacular
Because your average joe does not care about creating levels. Why people thought this would appeal to casuals, all cause it's got some stupid potato sack man on it i don't know. There casual, not completely stupid. Where as flip the coin you have Fable 2, EXTREMELY easy to get to grips on, VERY simple, hell even the magic doesn't have Mana, you can just spam it. It's designed for the casual RPG player and it sucks in the ''hardcore'' as well, it was always going to happen it's just to many people in here fool themselves into thinking SW = Real life.
The game just doesn't appeal to that many people. For all the talk about it being the new casual game, I know I don't waat to play any 2d side scroller that doesn't have a plumber in it any more, and only that is for nostalgic reasons. There are much more fun gametypes and experiences to have instead of playing through a 2d God of War level as Sackboy Kratos.EDIT: especially when your Sackboy CANNOT attack at all. What a lame design desicion.
Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the ''creating'' part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.
Planescape Torment Grim Fandango etc. = Games that are awesome and considered one of best games ever made - yet they dont sell well
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[QUOTE=''TBoogy'']Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the ''creating'' part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.[/QUOTE] 6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi.
It truly saddens me. We need LBP to do well. It's nice to get new %26 fresh IP's so well created, so if this bombs, it'll hurt the industry a little bit, imho. Although, I'm glad Fable 2's doing well. I just wish LBP could pick up in sales.
[QUOTE=''Lidve'']Planescape Torment Grim Fandango etc. = Games that are awesome and considered one of best games ever made - yet they dont sell well[/QUOTE] I just installed Grim Fandango yesterday :D
[QUOTE=''Fawlcon_Pawnch''] [QUOTE=''TBoogy'']Some of us tried to warn you this would happen. doesnt matter how good a platformer it is; the genre is not that popular anymore. and the ''creating'' part is not interesting to everyone. it will not be a big seller.[/QUOTE] 6.10 million seller Mario Galaxy says hi. [/QUOTE] SO every platformer is expected to sell as well as Mario? I mean are you really listening to your yourself. Name another platformer over the past 5 years that sold 1-2 million copies
This is how a cutesey niche game that's a new IP on a self-styled ''hardcore'' console should sell. Both Viva Pinatas were excellent, but they weren't record breakers... LBP never had a chance to sell in the same ballpark as a game like Fable - good game or no, it's just a poor fit for a blockbuster.
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No one on these boards seemed to come to terms that people outside of gaming forums had no interest or little knowledge about LBP, no one listened. Sony's commercials didnt tell what the game was about, so people outside of the niche market ignored it. Pretty obvious it was going to end up this way.
[QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']It truly saddens me. We need LBP to do well. It's nice to get new %26 fresh IP's so well created, so if this bombs, it'll hurt the industry a little bit, imho. Although, I'm glad Fable 2's doing well. I just wish LBP could pick up in sales.[/QUOTE] SHould blames all those casual owners that have a wii and also blame Sony for losing that casual market. Also messing up the launch was a big thing too.
Do the PS3's features make it a better c ...
Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?Do the PS3's features make it a better c ...
It all depends on your gaming tastes TBH. If someone wants MGS 4, LBP then he/she should definately get the PS3 but if someone wants Halo 3, Gears then he/she should deifinately get the 360.Do the PS3's features make it a better c ...
Only if you like those features. I prefer games and right now 360 is winning that department for me.
For me it does. I just like the interface, the capabilities and such. I think one of the biggest factors for me was the built in Wifi. I prefer the PS3 over my 360, but they are both great consoles. I love the fact of playing all the exclusives on each machine.
[QUOTE=''tomo876'']Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?[/QUOTE]
It depends on what your looking for. If gaming is your only concern, than 360 is still king for now. PS3 does give you a lot of bang for your buck however. Blu-ray, Wifi built-in, standard HDD for easy upgrade, Bluetooth, excellent streaming functionality, DTS-HD sound, etc make the PS# the best multimedia device
Wii, is best at giving you carpal tunnel :P
Actually, no - the xbox360's games and XBL make it a better console than the PS3...
I have both and prefer the PS3. It's a better deal overall, even though you can get a Pro 360 for cheaper, by the time you add in the wireless adapter, online fees, etc. it's actually more expensive. The 360 has more games but the reliability issue is always going to be an issue. I'm always worried that I'll get the RROD on my 360 everytime I turn it on and I try not to play more than one hour at a time. It's kind of unacceptable, really, that the failure rate of the 360 is so high. They each have their pros and cons. The PS3 is just a better built, more reliable system but the 360 has more and better games, although there are more and more multi-plats coming out and good games are coming out for the PS3 as well.
It makes it a better machine, but the games make the console.360 or PS3? it's entirely up to your tastes.
[QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] It makes it a better machine, but the games make the console.360 or PS3? it's entirely up to your tastes. [/QUOTE]I agree.
No, it makes it more expensive.
On the hardware side, yes. XBL is more advanced than PSN so the 360 wins the software side.
Why is this same question asked over and over again? I remember reading posts like these a year ago.
the built in flash 9 web browser with keyboard and mouse suppotort is also a great perk u can wach all ur reviews,PoRn,lol,or even gametrailers
[QUOTE=''tomo876'']Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?[/QUOTE]why don't you tell us how you feel? whatever that is, go with it!
[QUOTE=''tomo876'']Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?[/QUOTE]Blu-ray is nice if you are a movie watcher (which I am). Six-axis controller is too small for me and the motion stuff is a waste (except I like AO2 reloading with it), but I can see how some would like the controller (always a personal pref). The thing I must disagree with you on though is the ''Free'' online gameplay. I have both a 360 and PS3, and I must say the cost for Xbox Live is well worth it. I NEVER have issues with online play with my 360, but with my PS3 I almost never have a smooth experience. Choppy, Can't connect, and my favorite....I finally connect and get excited that I am about to enjoy some online goodness, but no one can hear me talking or it cuts in and out. (usually out).My ratings as per your comments:1) Media type (blu-ray)-Tie. Tie because load time are not very good when compared to DVD9. Even to the point many PS3 games now load content the HD. But...Being able to watch blu-ray movies is greatness.2) Controller - Xbox 360 hands down. Just fits better in the hand. The left analog above the D-Pad is where It should be. Triggers have better response. PS3 is smaller and lighter and might be better for some. Motion is usless most if the time.3) Online- Xbox Live has no issues. Getting a good game going on the PS3 can be a pain. Both systems are very good, but a better feature set......Not so much. Maybe I will update my post after Resistance 2.
It all depends on your gaming tastes TBH. If someone wants MGS 4, LBP then he/she should definately get the PS3 but if someone wants Halo 3, Gears then he/she should deifinately get the 360.Do the PS3's features make it a better c ...
Only if you like those features. I prefer games and right now 360 is winning that department for me.
For me it does. I just like the interface, the capabilities and such. I think one of the biggest factors for me was the built in Wifi. I prefer the PS3 over my 360, but they are both great consoles. I love the fact of playing all the exclusives on each machine.
[QUOTE=''tomo876'']Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?[/QUOTE]
It depends on what your looking for. If gaming is your only concern, than 360 is still king for now. PS3 does give you a lot of bang for your buck however. Blu-ray, Wifi built-in, standard HDD for easy upgrade, Bluetooth, excellent streaming functionality, DTS-HD sound, etc make the PS# the best multimedia device
Wii, is best at giving you carpal tunnel :P
Actually, no - the xbox360's games and XBL make it a better console than the PS3...
I have both and prefer the PS3. It's a better deal overall, even though you can get a Pro 360 for cheaper, by the time you add in the wireless adapter, online fees, etc. it's actually more expensive. The 360 has more games but the reliability issue is always going to be an issue. I'm always worried that I'll get the RROD on my 360 everytime I turn it on and I try not to play more than one hour at a time. It's kind of unacceptable, really, that the failure rate of the 360 is so high. They each have their pros and cons. The PS3 is just a better built, more reliable system but the 360 has more and better games, although there are more and more multi-plats coming out and good games are coming out for the PS3 as well.
It makes it a better machine, but the games make the console.360 or PS3? it's entirely up to your tastes.
[QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] It makes it a better machine, but the games make the console.360 or PS3? it's entirely up to your tastes. [/QUOTE]I agree.
No, it makes it more expensive.
On the hardware side, yes. XBL is more advanced than PSN so the 360 wins the software side.
Why is this same question asked over and over again? I remember reading posts like these a year ago.
the built in flash 9 web browser with keyboard and mouse suppotort is also a great perk u can wach all ur reviews,PoRn,lol,or even gametrailers
[QUOTE=''tomo876'']Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?[/QUOTE]why don't you tell us how you feel? whatever that is, go with it!
[QUOTE=''tomo876'']Does the PS3's blu-ray dvd player,six-axis controler and its free online gameplay make it a better console than the Xbox 360?[/QUOTE]Blu-ray is nice if you are a movie watcher (which I am). Six-axis controller is too small for me and the motion stuff is a waste (except I like AO2 reloading with it), but I can see how some would like the controller (always a personal pref). The thing I must disagree with you on though is the ''Free'' online gameplay. I have both a 360 and PS3, and I must say the cost for Xbox Live is well worth it. I NEVER have issues with online play with my 360, but with my PS3 I almost never have a smooth experience. Choppy, Can't connect, and my favorite....I finally connect and get excited that I am about to enjoy some online goodness, but no one can hear me talking or it cuts in and out. (usually out).My ratings as per your comments:1) Media type (blu-ray)-Tie. Tie because load time are not very good when compared to DVD9. Even to the point many PS3 games now load content the HD. But...Being able to watch blu-ray movies is greatness.2) Controller - Xbox 360 hands down. Just fits better in the hand. The left analog above the D-Pad is where It should be. Triggers have better response. PS3 is smaller and lighter and might be better for some. Motion is usless most if the time.3) Online- Xbox Live has no issues. Getting a good game going on the PS3 can be a pain. Both systems are very good, but a better feature set......Not so much. Maybe I will update my post after Resistance 2.
360 is in Last Place
Although they sell more than the ps3, they lose a sale whenever a 360 RROD's, and that's almost 35% consoles in America and 23% in Japan. I don't know if you know, but that's terribad. Wii is first, Ps3 is in 2nd.360 is in Last Place
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Nope.
Ok...:
|Removal of low-level account posting abilites GS. Look into it.
[QUOTE=''Eltroz'']Further proof why posters should be a certain level to be able to start a new thread. It would get rid of a lot of trash like this.[/QUOTE] Agreed.
[QUOTE=''keenof''] Although they sell more than the ps3, they lose a sale whenever a 360 RROD's, and that's almost 35% consoles in America and 23% in Japan. I don't know if you know, but that's terribad. Wii is first, Ps3 is in 2nd.[/QUOTE] yet 360 game sales are usually on top according to NPD...mmmm...
[QUOTE=''Eltroz'']Further proof why posters should be a certain level to be able to start a new thread. It would get rid of a lot of trash like this.[/QUOTE]AMEN!!
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The quality is just not there.......................
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Threads like this make me feel better about myself.
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[QUOTE=''keenof''][QUOTE=''DJCUEBALL''][QUOTE=''bez2083''] [QUOTE=''Eltroz'']Further proof why posters should be a certain level to be able to start a new thread. It would get rid of a lot of trash like this.[/QUOTE]Yup AMEN!! [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]LOL, You're all morons. I heard GS was a 360bot. Was just stating facts...[/QUOTE]What facts? Where's the link? You basically pulled numbers out of the air or out of some other part of your body, and called them facts, then when you were brushed off, you resort to insults. How is it a lost sale if the machine isn't returned to the retailer, how is it a lost sale when the buyer gets the console back fully operational (most of the time)? Please explain.
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[QUOTE=''keenof''] LOL, You're all morons. I heard GS was a 360bot. Was just stating facts...[/QUOTE] Facts? Many 360s get the RROD. That is a fact. It is NOT a fact that therefore the PS3 shoots ahead of it into second place. Someone needs to buy a dictionary (or use an online dictionary) and get reacquainted with the definition of the word ''fact.'' And THAT is a fact, Jack!
[QUOTE=''keenof''] Although they sell more than the ps3, they lose a sale whenever a 360 RROD's, and that's almost 35% consoles in America and 23% in Japan. I don't know if you know, but that's terribad. Wii is first, Ps3 is in 2nd.[/QUOTE] So, whats you real account then?I cannot believe someone would make such a flawed comment expecting us to take it seriously. I say your trying to start a fanboy argument, and you knew it might fail, so you created this file just incase.
Yes, it's a bad thread, so lets all keep responding to it and bumping it to the top (so good threads move down), rather then letting it sink to the bottom where it belongs.:roll:To the top!!!!
[QUOTE=''JonJonJohnnyJon'']Yes, it's a bad thread, so lets all keep responding to it and bumping it to the top (so good threads move down), rather then letting it sink to the bottom where it belongs.:roll:To the top!!!! [/QUOTE]
Damn straight. I say we need to encourage this sort of behavior! Huzzah.
[QUOTE=''JonJonJohnnyJon''] Yes, it's a bad thread, so lets all keep responding to it and bumping it to the top (so good threads move down), rather then letting it sink to the bottom where it belongs.:roll:To the top!!!! [/QUOTE] So we are agreed then... this thread must never die, because it's filled with too much awful awesomeness.
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Nope.
Ok...:
|Removal of low-level account posting abilites GS. Look into it.
[QUOTE=''Eltroz'']Further proof why posters should be a certain level to be able to start a new thread. It would get rid of a lot of trash like this.[/QUOTE] Agreed.
[QUOTE=''keenof''] Although they sell more than the ps3, they lose a sale whenever a 360 RROD's, and that's almost 35% consoles in America and 23% in Japan. I don't know if you know, but that's terribad. Wii is first, Ps3 is in 2nd.[/QUOTE] yet 360 game sales are usually on top according to NPD...mmmm...
[QUOTE=''Eltroz'']Further proof why posters should be a certain level to be able to start a new thread. It would get rid of a lot of trash like this.[/QUOTE]AMEN!!
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The quality is just not there.......................
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Threads like this make me feel better about myself.
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[QUOTE=''keenof''][QUOTE=''DJCUEBALL''][QUOTE=''bez2083''] [QUOTE=''Eltroz'']Further proof why posters should be a certain level to be able to start a new thread. It would get rid of a lot of trash like this.[/QUOTE]Yup AMEN!! [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]LOL, You're all morons. I heard GS was a 360bot. Was just stating facts...[/QUOTE]What facts? Where's the link? You basically pulled numbers out of the air or out of some other part of your body, and called them facts, then when you were brushed off, you resort to insults. How is it a lost sale if the machine isn't returned to the retailer, how is it a lost sale when the buyer gets the console back fully operational (most of the time)? Please explain.
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[QUOTE=''keenof''] LOL, You're all morons. I heard GS was a 360bot. Was just stating facts...[/QUOTE] Facts? Many 360s get the RROD. That is a fact. It is NOT a fact that therefore the PS3 shoots ahead of it into second place. Someone needs to buy a dictionary (or use an online dictionary) and get reacquainted with the definition of the word ''fact.'' And THAT is a fact, Jack!
[QUOTE=''keenof''] Although they sell more than the ps3, they lose a sale whenever a 360 RROD's, and that's almost 35% consoles in America and 23% in Japan. I don't know if you know, but that's terribad. Wii is first, Ps3 is in 2nd.[/QUOTE] So, whats you real account then?I cannot believe someone would make such a flawed comment expecting us to take it seriously. I say your trying to start a fanboy argument, and you knew it might fail, so you created this file just incase.
Yes, it's a bad thread, so lets all keep responding to it and bumping it to the top (so good threads move down), rather then letting it sink to the bottom where it belongs.:roll:To the top!!!!
[QUOTE=''JonJonJohnnyJon'']Yes, it's a bad thread, so lets all keep responding to it and bumping it to the top (so good threads move down), rather then letting it sink to the bottom where it belongs.:roll:To the top!!!! [/QUOTE]
Damn straight. I say we need to encourage this sort of behavior! Huzzah.
[QUOTE=''JonJonJohnnyJon''] Yes, it's a bad thread, so lets all keep responding to it and bumping it to the top (so good threads move down), rather then letting it sink to the bottom where it belongs.:roll:To the top!!!! [/QUOTE] So we are agreed then... this thread must never die, because it's filled with too much awful awesomeness.
Whos willing to bet that during 2007 PS3 ...
Who thinks so. I certainly do. EU really just rode on the brand name and I think that saved the PS3. If it wasn't for the brandname it would've been forgotten right now. lol.Whos willing to bet that during 2007 PS3 ...
I would say that is true about most systems. Whos willing to bet that during 2007 PS3 ...
So what if it did? Good for Sony.
Probably, yes. There was no reason to own a PS3 for most of 2007. On the bright side, it shows how strong the PS brand name is.
Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them.
I accept your bet.
now the burden of PROOF is on you....
In europe it sure does. I know 10 people who bought PS3 over 360 because it was sony. Ps2's marketshare for Europe was ridiculous..well over 80% last gen. It only had 55% in US so that's why 360 is doing better here, the brand name for Sony is weaker compared to xbox in US than in Europe. This is also why PS3 will struggle to outsell 360 in U.S anytime soon.
So? What's wrong with that? Brand loyaty often shows that you are comfortable the the quality that that name represents. Most companies would kill (literally) for that kind of devotion to their product.
Ps3 is full of win.People like things full of win , thats why they bought a Ps3. =)
[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim'']Probably, yes. On the bright side, it shows how strong the PS brand name is.[/QUOTE] At the same time I also think this gen has weakened it. The real question will be how well will the PS4 sell. This year the PS3 survived off its name until it's big hitters came out. Now they're finally here, it'll continue to sell on the merits of it's games.
I dont know what are you trying to probe here, but if you scavenge some late 2006 early 2007 threads, you will see that was the general concensus between most posters, except the biggest fanboys. I always said the brand name is one of the most important assets Sony has on their side, that why they cannot easily change the console name also.
[QUOTE=''HarlockJC'']I would say that is true about most systems. [/QUOTE] Honestly this gen I think that MS doesn't have any type of brand name popularity at all in terms of consoles. Maybe a few people will buy it thinking its made from MS but thats it.
[QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why doesn one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out?
[QUOTE=''KinderChimp'']Who thinks so. I certainly do. EU really just rode on the brand name and I think that saved the PS3. If it wasn't for the brandname it would've been forgotten right now. lol.[/QUOTE]
DUH, did it take you this long to come to that conclusion?
Naw, I think it sold because of teh b-ray player.
[QUOTE=''kingtito''][QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why doesn one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out? [/QUOTE] I bought my PS3 at launch for $599 and now it's $399. It's well worth the extra $200 I spent on my PS3 for the extra two years of enjoyment I've had with it.As far as the topic goes, I had a Gamecube and Xbox last gen, never had a PS2 so it's not true what you said about brand name. I upgraded my Gamecube to a Wii, but my Xbox I sold and went to PS3.
[QUOTE=''kingtito''][QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why does one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out? [/QUOTE]At launch:A.) Consoles cost nearly double what they will in two years.
B.) What 1st year launch title is worth $400-$600?
C.) How hard is it to wait a year or two for price drops and wait for good games to come out? You have a perfectly good PS2 that is still getting killer games on a monthly basis.Say I buy a 360 at launch for $400 +tax. What do I play on it for that year? PDZ? PGR3? Kameo? Did I really need to play Oblivion the moment it came out? Are any of these games honestly better than what last-gen had or is still getting?Now of course, if your filthy rich do what you will. but if you are a person who last limited funds, impuslively purchasing products that won't entertain nearly as much as something you already have, I would be worried about what else you blow money on.
[QUOTE=''EmperorSupreme''][QUOTE=''kingtito''][QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why doesn one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out? [/QUOTE] I bought my PS3 at launch for $599 and now it's $399. It's well worth the extra $200 I spent on my PS3 for the extra two years of enjoyment I've had with it.As far as the topic goes, I had a Gamecube and Xbox last gen, never had a PS2 so it's not true what you said about brand name. I upgraded my Gamecube to a Wii, but my Xbox I sold and went to PS3. [/QUOTE]I still haven't had the time to finish last-gens killer games. I'm sure a $600 PS3 with its first year games was miles ahead of the enjoyment i got from my PS2 in 2007.:roll:I guess it's all opinion, but I would never buy a console at launch. I take gifts though, =p.zits
I would say that is true about most systems. Whos willing to bet that during 2007 PS3 ...
So what if it did? Good for Sony.
Probably, yes. There was no reason to own a PS3 for most of 2007. On the bright side, it shows how strong the PS brand name is.
Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them.
I accept your bet.
now the burden of PROOF is on you....
In europe it sure does. I know 10 people who bought PS3 over 360 because it was sony. Ps2's marketshare for Europe was ridiculous..well over 80% last gen. It only had 55% in US so that's why 360 is doing better here, the brand name for Sony is weaker compared to xbox in US than in Europe. This is also why PS3 will struggle to outsell 360 in U.S anytime soon.
So? What's wrong with that? Brand loyaty often shows that you are comfortable the the quality that that name represents. Most companies would kill (literally) for that kind of devotion to their product.
Ps3 is full of win.People like things full of win , thats why they bought a Ps3. =)
[QUOTE=''Floppy_Jim'']Probably, yes. On the bright side, it shows how strong the PS brand name is.[/QUOTE] At the same time I also think this gen has weakened it. The real question will be how well will the PS4 sell. This year the PS3 survived off its name until it's big hitters came out. Now they're finally here, it'll continue to sell on the merits of it's games.
I dont know what are you trying to probe here, but if you scavenge some late 2006 early 2007 threads, you will see that was the general concensus between most posters, except the biggest fanboys. I always said the brand name is one of the most important assets Sony has on their side, that why they cannot easily change the console name also.
[QUOTE=''HarlockJC'']I would say that is true about most systems. [/QUOTE] Honestly this gen I think that MS doesn't have any type of brand name popularity at all in terms of consoles. Maybe a few people will buy it thinking its made from MS but thats it.
[QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why doesn one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out?
[QUOTE=''KinderChimp'']Who thinks so. I certainly do. EU really just rode on the brand name and I think that saved the PS3. If it wasn't for the brandname it would've been forgotten right now. lol.[/QUOTE]
DUH, did it take you this long to come to that conclusion?
Naw, I think it sold because of teh b-ray player.
[QUOTE=''kingtito''][QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why doesn one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out? [/QUOTE] I bought my PS3 at launch for $599 and now it's $399. It's well worth the extra $200 I spent on my PS3 for the extra two years of enjoyment I've had with it.As far as the topic goes, I had a Gamecube and Xbox last gen, never had a PS2 so it's not true what you said about brand name. I upgraded my Gamecube to a Wii, but my Xbox I sold and went to PS3.
[QUOTE=''kingtito''][QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why does one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out? [/QUOTE]At launch:A.) Consoles cost nearly double what they will in two years.
B.) What 1st year launch title is worth $400-$600?
C.) How hard is it to wait a year or two for price drops and wait for good games to come out? You have a perfectly good PS2 that is still getting killer games on a monthly basis.Say I buy a 360 at launch for $400 +tax. What do I play on it for that year? PDZ? PGR3? Kameo? Did I really need to play Oblivion the moment it came out? Are any of these games honestly better than what last-gen had or is still getting?Now of course, if your filthy rich do what you will. but if you are a person who last limited funds, impuslively purchasing products that won't entertain nearly as much as something you already have, I would be worried about what else you blow money on.
[QUOTE=''EmperorSupreme''][QUOTE=''kingtito''][QUOTE=''Koalakommander''] Yes because people impulsively drop $600 because they like a brand. I've loved all the playstations, but $400 is still too much for me.maybe it sold well in 2007 becaue it was a brand new system and thousands of morons always get new consoles as soon as they launch.it's also a blu-ray player...there are so many variables, and assuming that everything is blinded by brand name to the point of spending $600 is not one of them. [/QUOTE] Now why doesn one have to be a moron just because they choose to buy a system when it 1st comes out? [/QUOTE] I bought my PS3 at launch for $599 and now it's $399. It's well worth the extra $200 I spent on my PS3 for the extra two years of enjoyment I've had with it.As far as the topic goes, I had a Gamecube and Xbox last gen, never had a PS2 so it's not true what you said about brand name. I upgraded my Gamecube to a Wii, but my Xbox I sold and went to PS3. [/QUOTE]I still haven't had the time to finish last-gens killer games. I'm sure a $600 PS3 with its first year games was miles ahead of the enjoyment i got from my PS2 in 2007.:roll:I guess it's all opinion, but I would never buy a console at launch. I take gifts though, =p.
Anyone else dissapointed in Far Cry 2?
Been playing the 360 version, and so far, IMO..its boring. The game looks amazing, expecially for consoles, but the way the mission are set up and the decision to make you drive long distances to reach a location is tiresome and repetative. The game isn't bad, plays like COD4, but FC2 just feels like a drag. I don't want to go and ask for missions, or have some guys help me out of a sitaution in this hazzy cutscenes all the time.While i like their attempt of making it realistic, its over done. Games should be simple and fun, meaning, just how it plays should feel good, Far cry 2 doesn't, IMO. Same goes with getting tired/blurry vision, etc. Just puts you out of the game too much. Another thing, why does it take so long to kill someone, even on easy?BTW, animations could have been better. Only positive thing i can say, is just the technical and graphical side of things. Thoughts?Anyone else dissapointed in Far Cry 2?
It was a big disappointment for me, didn't expect GTA Africa :(Anyone else dissapointed in Far Cry 2?
[QUOTE=''Epak_'']It was a big disappointed for me, didn't expect GTA Africa :([/QUOTE]yep, thats what bugged me. Scale is good, but gsus, cut it down abit..expecially for a place like africa.
I like it, it is a solid 8/10
It's a great game. The driving is not too bad, just use the bus more.
It is a great game.I was a bit let down , but its still great.I was expecting one of the best shooters this gen... Honestly its not the best, but it certainly is damn good.
If only they made a more compeling story and dedicated characters. Its a great experience initially, but they failed to keep up the momentum. There just wasn't enough to keep me motivated to continue. I don't see me playing FC2 anymore now that I have Dead Space and Fallout 3.
I haven't played myself.My brother did though (pirated it, which is why I'm not playing it) and he likes it overall. He told me that some of the things that happened while he was playing killed the immersion for him. He hasn't played it for a few days now.
I'm not disappointed in the game but I'll copy and paste from the 360 forums what is pissing me off about it--Having to drive and drive and drive and drive and drive and drive to your next location gets so bland and tedious. It makes the game twice as long as it has to be. The devs should have included some kind of ''fast travel'' option like in Oblivion.- CONSTANTLY being followed and harassed by guards when I'm driving to the next mision. The occasional firefight can be fun but it just gets annoying after a while. -I don't know how but I have somehow ''abandoned'' one of my buddies. And I have no idea how to get him back.-No quick button for the machete, like with grenades. It's lame having to press ''up'' to select it before you can use it. It may sound extremely minor but it's a little awkward when you're surrounded by 4 armed guards trying to murder you.-Weapons jamming. OK, I can appreciate that they wanted to make the game realistic but it just seems to happen too much. -The GPS diamond-locator-thingy could be a little more helpful.It has it's flaws but I'd give it 8-8.5 so far.
I love Farcry2 . It is another shooter than the ''rest'' and that's exactly why I bought it . It isn't perfect, but I love it
it's a fun game, but there are some very disappointing and outright annoying features or lack thereof that it has.
yea, the diversity really blows, and the environment is barren half the time (not in terms of locale, but in terms of things to see and do). I have it for pc, and lately i have been playing more kung fu panda on my 360 than fc2
It was a big disappointment for me, didn't expect GTA Africa :(Anyone else dissapointed in Far Cry 2?
[QUOTE=''Epak_'']It was a big disappointed for me, didn't expect GTA Africa :([/QUOTE]yep, thats what bugged me. Scale is good, but gsus, cut it down abit..expecially for a place like africa.
I like it, it is a solid 8/10
It's a great game. The driving is not too bad, just use the bus more.
It is a great game.I was a bit let down , but its still great.I was expecting one of the best shooters this gen... Honestly its not the best, but it certainly is damn good.
If only they made a more compeling story and dedicated characters. Its a great experience initially, but they failed to keep up the momentum. There just wasn't enough to keep me motivated to continue. I don't see me playing FC2 anymore now that I have Dead Space and Fallout 3.
I haven't played myself.My brother did though (pirated it, which is why I'm not playing it) and he likes it overall. He told me that some of the things that happened while he was playing killed the immersion for him. He hasn't played it for a few days now.
I'm not disappointed in the game but I'll copy and paste from the 360 forums what is pissing me off about it--Having to drive and drive and drive and drive and drive and drive to your next location gets so bland and tedious. It makes the game twice as long as it has to be. The devs should have included some kind of ''fast travel'' option like in Oblivion.- CONSTANTLY being followed and harassed by guards when I'm driving to the next mision. The occasional firefight can be fun but it just gets annoying after a while. -I don't know how but I have somehow ''abandoned'' one of my buddies. And I have no idea how to get him back.-No quick button for the machete, like with grenades. It's lame having to press ''up'' to select it before you can use it. It may sound extremely minor but it's a little awkward when you're surrounded by 4 armed guards trying to murder you.-Weapons jamming. OK, I can appreciate that they wanted to make the game realistic but it just seems to happen too much. -The GPS diamond-locator-thingy could be a little more helpful.It has it's flaws but I'd give it 8-8.5 so far.
I love Farcry2 . It is another shooter than the ''rest'' and that's exactly why I bought it . It isn't perfect, but I love it
it's a fun game, but there are some very disappointing and outright annoying features or lack thereof that it has.
yea, the diversity really blows, and the environment is barren half the time (not in terms of locale, but in terms of things to see and do). I have it for pc, and lately i have been playing more kung fu panda on my 360 than fc2
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